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I personally don't believe that Tadhg is Swords, and wouldn't by a long shot.

Since back in 2019 when I was a regular poster on Pish, I found TG to be sound and down-to-earth. I believe he is a man of his convictions and genuinely does believe in the Communist-Socialist cause. It's actually a sigh of relief in a way as it seems to be the case that the vast majority of Irish people are apolitical centrists who will vote for whatever local FFG or "independent" gombeen in promising. These folks in general couldn't give a shite about anywhere outside of their boreen and the state could collapse in on itself for all they'd care.

At least with Tadhg, GD and some of the others...they support non-selfish ideologies and those which would actually benefit the greater good if implemented. I would certainly take that over some bloke out in Boston who seems to care more about his stock portfolio than in how many hospital beds are available throughout Ireland, or the state of our public services etc.

Swords is a different kettle of fish altogether. I have for the longest time now considered him / her / it to be a cold, rude, selfish, ignorant, arrogant and thoughtless individual with a very self obsessed and self righteous persona. Like with Dengler, I believe this individual would think nothing of subjecting the rest of us to a theocratic state - also conveniently capitalist, aka. pious in church and for keeping up appearances, but greedy, two-faced cunts in reality.
 

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I think it's also important that we not be seen as a bunch of cranks, for Hans watches this forum like a hawk (despite his pretence otherwise) and will use any old little bit of ammunition against us.

Also olli rehn olli rehn, could you please stick to the topic. This thread belongs to Thus and is deemed a self moderated thread - which means you can be removed from it by the OP without appeal.
 
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I can understand Tadhg/Cael somewhat. He is an insane "Commie" and basically engaged in a one-man propaganda operation.

(It is well known that the plain fact is that out of the troubled areas of the world the public receives practically nothing that is not propaganda. And you could probably apply the same principle to the capitalist world. So Tadhg basically gives the communist version, the communist perspective, he demonstrates that there is more than one way to interpret reality, he seeks to sow the seeds of and nurture a consciousness that comes from the communist perspective.)

But what's the connection with the subject of this thread? It is almost as if Ratio/Golah are employed by Tadhg - with their two person operations, always posting as a team, with likes for each other's posts, and the way they develop narratives between them.

One thing is clear though. Ratio/Golah is about nothing but antisemitism. That is always the perspective he brings to any subject under the sun, the interpretative framework for reality. So does that not compromise what Tadhg is trying to do?

Of course I know there is an essentially antisemitic anti-Zionism right at the heart of the communist creed. But without a doubt Ratio/Golah goes far beyond that. So why does Tadhg sanction it?

Just thinking out loud here. As I said, it is a mystery.

Yes 100% that anti-semitism is a key part of the extreme communist ideology. Tag often speaks about taking down the capitalist machine...and I know that some people believe that jews are the beating heart of capitalism.

Could be a double act of Ratio pumping out the anti-semitic guff, while Tag keeps to the strict commie programme?

Also wasn't Cael is holy joe/ extreme catholic nut?
 

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... Also wasn't Cael is holy joe/ extreme catholic nut?
Tadhg I think recently turned and became a follower of Christ, rather than Catholic. Two very different things, especially when you see how some wield Catholicism. But Tadhg definitely used to be an extreme catholic nut, for example he used rail against "the anti-Catholic liars who wish to slander the fantastic work carried out by the Bon Secours Sisters for the sake of the Irish poor..." etc. Cael was before my time. But it's clear they are the same poster.
 

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When his eyes opened to the racism on pish, he would of course have seen how so many of them used Catholicism as a front to be able to think well of themselves while being low down racists. I assume that's why he turned against his own extreme Catholicism.
 
When his eyes opened to the racism on pish, he would of course have seen how so many of them used Catholicism as a front to be able to think well of themselves while being low down racists. I assume that's why he turned against his own extreme Catholicism.
I think you have it exactly right, the racism on that site really started to piss Tadhg off big time and a lot of it is propagated by extremist Catholics.
The religious thing with him is a little strange for a communist, I know a few and they are all atheists, and also unlike Tadhg they are strongly pro abortion.
 

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I think you have it exactly right, the racism on that site really started to piss Tadhg off big time and a lot of it is propagated by extremist Catholics.
The religious thing with him is a little strange for a communist, I know a few and they are all atheists, and also unlike Tadhg they are strongly pro abortion.
Indeed. Well I suppose keep in mind that both posters implicitly support the Pyongyang regime's policy of forced abortions, sterilisations and infanticide.

 

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Bullshit. I've addressed the "Zionist shill" accusation on this forum. Of course your own ideology and dogma is unable to acknowledge or admit anything threatening to your held worldview.

And the only real problem I have with any poster is Gollum, and the reason for that problem is the extreme underhand lying, distortion, and a range of other base tactics. I have no problem with criticism of Israel. But saying things like that Israelis are just waiting for their chance to "genocide" all of the Palestinians, just one calumny out of a never ending list, is something profoundly different to my ears.

There is no doxxing going on. These are all anonymous profiles we're examining, to try and better understand the online phenomenon of this sly, lying hate-monger.

But perhaps this is an auspicious reminder that on pish we witnessed a three man act, and the Chomsky indoctrinated radical "anti-imperialist" third member may help throw some additional light on the subject?
 

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Question. - Under the "regime" instigated, managed, supervised, nurtured, by the three principal moderators, Swords, Godsdog, and Tadhg, that underlied the organic development of the forum politicalirish.com in its formative years... what stereotypes, what world-views, what attitudes, were the attractors to the membership that gravitated there? Why did all the most racist, catholic fundamentalist, sceptics, extremists, of all hues, go there?

Are there parallels between such as covid scepticism, climate scepticism, and all the other far-right scepticisms, and the anti-US, ant-imperialist, anti-Zionist, anti-Capititalist doctrines of the radical left and for that matter radical catholicism? What about racism and antisemitism?

What exactly consisted the "triumvirate" of ideology, when you summed the three up. - What was in it that was so damn attractive to the racists, discontents, half-wits, fundamentalists, alt-right Americans, conspitracists, and other odious varieties that assembled under this "triumvirate"? (No doubt there was an overseer, but let's stick to the executives.)
 
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I've booted Verooka/ Godsdog off this thread by the way.

I think the discussion here as gone well so far, thanks for everything that you have contributed. I've enjoyed immensely reading your posts.

Most of the posters of Political Irish came from P.ie (either those that were booted off, banned or couldn't debate their issues against the more liberal, central posters of p.ie).

When did PISH come into to existence?
 

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so much for free speech on politics Isle

It's even worse on PIsh though, right?

They have a thread by SuperRat about free speech on the front page of PIsh and page one has Dengler talking about the importance of free speech.

The only free speech Dengler deals in is with his dumb bastard Catholic lick-spittle buddies, and anyone with an opposing view is summarily booted off the site. SuperRat is now the (not very) proud owner of Alive.com, a fundamentalist Irish Catholic site for priestly anus-licking old twerps who genuinely think their god favours them for being closet N.azi bastards.

They're all for the fire, they're mere kindling in the cosmic scale of things.
 
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It's even worse on PIsh though, right?

They have a thread by SuperRat about free speech on the front page of PIsh and page one has Dengler talking about the importance of free speech.

The only free speech Dengler deals in is with his dumb bastard Catholic lick-spittle buddies, and anyone with an opposing view is summarily booted off the site. SuperRat is now the (not very) proud owner of Alive.com, a fundamentalist Irish Catholic site for priestly anus-licking old twerps who genuinely think their god favours them for being closet N.azi bastards.

They're all for the fire, they're mere kindling in the cosmic scale of things.
I've put godsdog back in his kennel for the rest of the day.

Don't worry though, he has his squeaky toy and his dish has water in it.
 

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Ah, here - we've few enough members as it is - let him/her say his/her piece?

It keeps the debate hot and we all need a bit of heat during the winter.
 
Indeed. Well I suppose keep in mind that both posters implicitly support the Pyongyang regime's policy of forced abortions, sterilisations and infanticide.

That really is awful, I would love to see that regime ousted, by their own people not foreign intervention. The other aspect of the article that really caught my eye is the amount of prisoners escaping from these camps. I read a book a few years ago titled I think The Long Walk, it was about a guy who walked thousands of kilometres to freedom after escaping from one of these camps. From memory I think the book claimed he was the only ever escapee at that time, perhaps the author was talking about just that particular camp.
 

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I agree godsdog should be able to say his piece.

But his well worn slogans and propaganda are not on topic. They shut down discussion, as they are designed to.

I mean the cult-like all refrains, choruses, dogmas, dog-whisles, of "zionist" devils and what not. Along with the caricatures being so gleefully painted - signalling to morons that anything said no matter how persuasive must be dismissed, because it is "Zionist hasbara" and part of the cultish stereotype being that it is paid for by the "enemy" etc.

Note I only dwell on the tactics of these radical cultist Neanderthals because it was a big part of the triumvirate of ideology I mentioned above that succeeded so well in nurturing a mindset of cult-like belonging and hostility to outside groups in the politicalirish faithful.

It would certainly appear that anti-zionist ideology was used by these three to proselytize and recruit.

Having said that I realise many people on these type of internet forums don't see or hear the same base currents I have become tuned to. But at least recognise that it is a device to shut people down.

Little different to the way say thick shinnerbots gang up together if some disquieting fact that upsets their party narrative, and make twelve or so utterly sh1t posts to drown it out, bury it.

Not near as bad as Gollum/Ratio's primary device though - to shrilly lie that his opponent "wants to murder all the peasants" etc, the false ascribing of all sorts of beliefs to his opponent (the only basis for which is his own hideous projections).
 
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