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# JFK Assassination

#### DS86DS

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Who killed JFK?

I personally believe that the CIA and the banking establishment colluded to have the president killed, for one, John F. Kennedy was known for his stance against the Vietnam War and had stated on occasion that he sought to end a war which had caused the deaths of thousands of American soldiers and military personnel. This would not bode well with the CIA or the Military Industrial Complex who had power and money at stake for this to be allowed happen. The CIA also understood that Lyndon Johnson was a lot more hawkish on Vietnam and if they could get rid of Kennedy, they would have the man they wanted in the White House.

President Kennedy, like Andrew Jackson before him had promised to smash the corrupt banking system into a million pieces and thus bring the American economy back under the control of the country and out of the hands of the Federal Reserve banking cartel - who to this day dominate the American and World economy by holding governments to ransom while printing money out of thin air. What Kennedy had in mind policy-wise would have benefitted US society and the American people as a whole and not simply a few shady Central Bankers at the top of the pyramid. To this day, the authorities and Mainstream Media do all they can to convince us of the lone gunman Oswald theory, yet it should always be considered that President Kennedy had made dangerous enemies in high places, including within the CIA and banking system.

All opinions and thoughts welcome.

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Who killed JFK?

I personally believe that the CIA and the banking establishment colluded to have the president killed, for one, John F. Kennedy was known for his stance against the Vietnam War and had stated on occasion that he sought to end a war which had caused the deaths of thousands of American soldiers and military personnel. This would not bode well with the CIA or the Military Industrial Complex who had power and money at stake for this to be allowed happen. The CIA also understood that Lyndon Johnson was a lot more hawkish on Vietnam and if they could get rid of Kennedy, they would have the man they wanted in the White House.

President Kennedy, like Andrew Jackson before him had promised to smash the corrupt banking system into a million pieces and thus bring the American economy back under the control of the country and out of the hands of the Federal Reserve banking cartel - who to this day dominate the American and World economy by holding governments to ransom while printing money out of thin air. What Kennedy had in mind policy-wise would have benefitted US society and the American people as a whole and not simply a few shady Central Bankers at the top of the pyramid. To this day, the authorities and Mainstream Media do all they can to convince us of the lone gunman Oswald theory, yet it should always be considered that President Kennedy had made dangerous enemies in high places, including within the CIA and banking system.

All opinions and thoughts welcome.
There was a time when I was much younger and much less cynical I would have told you to take off your tinfoil hat. Sadly, today with the hindsight of a lot of experience, I have to say I tend to agree with you.

What John Q. Public does not seem to understand, or even WANT to understand is the difference between Capitalism and Casino Capitalism. Capitalism merely means having wealth in private hands and investing it in business as makes financial sense. This is how wealth is created and held accountable - i.e. the exact opposite of Marxist communism in which the state owns all means of production. Casino Capitalism is what we have once again, as we did in the 1920s - where the world of finance simply creates ways to re-distribute wealth by the simple means of speculative gain. In most textbook economies, that would mean inflation, but in the one VERY special case of Wall Street - where the member PRIVATE banks own the central bank - and pretty much own those within the Beltway, they can simply increase the money supply to cover their gains - passing the bill (the money supply is a liability to the taxpayer) to the public. This works in the USA simply because that central bank is privately owned and secondly that the Greenback has de-facto hegemony, and when the inflationary forces of increasing the money supply are applied, other central banks the world over have to jump in and buy US to keep their US denominated instruments and accounts from crashing and taking THEM down. It is a brilliantly planned system that has taken hundreds of years to evolve to its current extreme where in '08 instead of crashing as it should have, banks declared themselves "too big to fail" and their ringleader - Paulson - started the ball rolling for trillion in bailouts - that was picked up by the Uniparty and continued under Barack Obama without a wiggle of change in direction.

I don't doubt for one minute that Kennedy - threatening to repeat the curiosity that killed the McFadden cat - was an easy target for someone(s) who stood to lose a hundred years of "progress" by returning control of the economy to the people who have to pick up the bills.

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#### DS86DS

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Very good post. Kennedy and his successor Johnson had many policies in the pipeline which would benefit and protect the average person from the harsher outcomes of American Capitalism, including the Great Society Program and Medicare. I cannot imagine that that went down too well with the powers that be. It's no coincidence perhaps that from Nixon onwards, there had been a radical shift in US economic policy even though institutions such as the EPA were brought into existence under his tenure.

The lone nut with a gun and a grudge seems like a plausible scenario, though not so much as that of those with power and wealth getting rid of a man they considered a threat to their interests. It's the oldest story in politics, aka. the protection of wealth, privilege and power at any cost necessary - and God help anybody who decides to get in the way. In that sense, Kennedy had made a lot of powerful enemies within the corridors of power. And not merely powerful enemies, but dangerous enemies.

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There is a lot to learn about the Yanks for we outsiders and non-historians.

One take on the Federal Reserve system came from it very founder of its modern format, Sen Louis McFadden
Now, he was in no uncertain terms an anti-semite, but you also have to judge him by the standards of the time where racism, etc. were a significant and fluid part of everyday life and culture. If the banker writing banking legislation felt that his baby had been violated, I tend to want to take him seriously.

At the other extreme of the same balance is how Wall Street (that essentially OWNS not only the Federal Reserve but also the secretariat of anything financial within every administration) financed Hitler and essentially WWII:

The relationship between European banks and bankers has been extremely close from day one because it is the ONLY playground in the world where they can own the central bank and control a superpower's monetary, financial and economic policy.

#### Jennyanydots

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I can't say whether there was a conspiracy or not. It happened more than 20 years before I was born. All I have to go on is things such as the Warren Report and Jim Garrison's book "On The Trail Of The Assassins". Note the plural: 'Assassins'.

OK... assuming there was a conspiracy, it was extraordinarily well planned and carried out. However, there was one thing that no amount of preparation could plan for:

Abraham Zapruder standing on a plinth on the grassy knoll with his 16mm camera, capturing everything as it happened.

That, for me, is the single most telling piece of evidence that there was more than one shooter. The final head shot alone could not possibly have come from the book depository.... and no matter how the Warren Commission's theoretical physicists attempts to make the claim that it did, show that clip to a thousand ballistics experts, one at a time, for the first time ever, and a thousand of them will tell you that that shot came from a low position, in front of, and to the left of the car.

The Zapruder film is the one single thing that conspirators couldn't plan for and it is the basis of every challenge to the Warren Commission's findings.

Also, regarding Paddy's comments about the Vietnam War (I recommend Geoffrey C Ward and Ken Burns excellent history of the war, which was made into an HBO documentary series), a little reported fact about the day of the assassination is that later on that day, Kennedy was scheduled to meet with a high ranking general (can't remember the N.ame now) who he wanted to take advice from regarding the practicalities of removing American troops from Vietnam. Events meant that that meeting never took place and LBJ was inexorably sucked into committing America deeper and deeper into a war that, from the outset, and as the Pentagon Papers proved, successive Presidents knew America could never win.

Fascinating topic.