NPHET clash with Government

[Clanrickard]

Restaurants and gastropubs to reopen in December under Government plan

Cabinet sub-committee meets ahead of ‘polite showdown’ with public health experts

www.irishtimes.com

It said if restaurants and other hospitality providers were allowed to reopen for Christmas then visits to people’s homes should be limited to one other household only

These boys are not in the real world. It's Christmas and people will celebrate no matter what. They've had 6 months to bring our health service up to speed and have failed to do so. This is a cover for their negligence.

 

[olli rehn]

Restaurants and gastropubs to reopen in December under Government plan

Cabinet sub-committee meets ahead of ‘polite showdown’ with public health experts

www.irishtimes.com

These boys are not in the real world. It's Christmas and people will celebrate no matter what. They've had 6 months to bring our health service up to speed and have failed to do so. This is a cover for their negligence.

Sorry- but the virus is still in the driving seat- no matter what. Even the Germans are running out of ICU beds now. Do you seriously expect the HSE being better then the Germans?
We need to be patient. Any celebrations for Christmas will lead to a huge spike in cases- and we are straight into another long lockdown In January/February.

 

[Thus]

It’s a tricky time for the Govt. If all is opened around Christmas, the pubs will be jammers.
And we’ll see a very sharp increase in cases in Jan. And that could lead to a shitshow in the hospitals.

On the other hand the govt has a careful eye on the exchequer receipts. I wonder how much 2020 has added to the national debt?

You also have many politicians that have vested interests in pubs, I have not doubt that they will be open for at least two weeks over Christmas. The real question is how will paddy react, when they do open.

 

[olli rehn]

Paddy will go mad as soon as the pubs open. Most folks are just dumb.
And- yes- you will see a huge rise in cases in January.

 

[Thus]

The sad truth is that Paddy will be out on the lash as soon as the boozers will open.

Imagine being a publican... the pressure must be unreal at the minute.

We just can’t contain ourselves when there’s drink involved. Good luck even trying to police Christmas Eve.

 

[Clanrickard]

Anti-alcohol zeal of public health experts peppers reopening debate

Caveat: Does the virus have an alcohol problem or is it the other way round?

www.irishtimes.com

A good read

 

[Thus]

I've read this morning that Govt will reject the advice from NPHET, so the pubs will open for Christmas. Personal responsibility will play a key factor on how January will look in terms of cases.

Also that article is behind a pay, but I imagine it has a dig our drinking culture no?

 

[Clanrickard]

I've read this morning that Govt will reject the advice from NPHET, so the pubs will open for Christmas. Personal responsibility will play a key factor on how January will look in terms of cases.

Also that article is behind a pay, but I imagine it has a dig our drinking culture no?

No it takes NPHET task for obsessive preoccupation with alcohol.

 

[Thus]

No it takes NPHET task for obsessive preoccupation with alcohol.

So it's defending our drinking culture

I think NPHET's point is that in places of social gathering, the virus spreads easily, so the pubs are the first target.
In France, it was restaurants, bars and cafes where the virus was spread. So it makes sense NPHET is taking aim at that sector.

 

[Coal Gas and peat]

There is going to be no drinking pints for anyone over Christmas

 

[DS86DS]

There is going to be no drinking pints for anyone over Christmas

The Dail bar being the exception no doubt.

 

[valamhic]

The first thing you must remember is that a huge portion of the Irish administration, civil servants, Gardai, departmental staff etc are mean boring
spoil sports who hate drinking and smoking and never indulge themselves because they are too mean to buy it. There is a huge gulf between them and
the ordinary people. They seized on Covid to exercise their power and to control. It shut down Trump, the Yellow vest protests and the Hong Kong riots.

All to protect a few ancient boring useless mean 90 years olds who would be dead long ago if it was not for modern medicine. They have to die from something
so they should clock out and let the young crowd have access to their houses and land. Look at all the contrary auld kunts on Politics.ie and Pish and Mowl, Ollie and DS. What the fock loss would they be? I am completely sober to night in case I am accused of being drunk. Its the greatest load of horsemanure ever.

 

[Thus]

Mean Val?
Says a man that’s been wearing the same stained jumper for months now.
Cop yourself on, you disgusting fool.

 

[valamhic]

Mean Val?
Says a man that’s been wearing the same stained jumper for months now.
Cop yourself on, you disgusting fool.

Take manky jumpers out of you dope head's vocabulary and you're speechless.

 

[valamhic]

The Dail bar being the exception no doubt.

I a way, the longer these lock downs go on the better the chance a revolt.

 

[valamhic]

So it's defending our drinking culture

I think NPHET's point is that in places of social gathering, the virus spreads easily, so the pubs are the first target.
In France, it was restaurants, bars and cafes where the virus was spread. So it makes sense NPHET is taking aim at that sector.

So an infected bread delivery man loads the shelves of the supermarket with Brennan s bread, 20 customers handle that package. The virus lasts 3 days on the packaging. Tell us how the virus does not transmit to the customers. Each customer has 2 relatives at home and they handle the loaf. 1 delivery man X 20 X 3 =63. In one morning

 

[Mowl]

The first thing you must remember is that a huge portion of the Irish administration, civil servants, Gardai, departmental staff etc are mean boring
spoil sports who hate drinking and smoking and never indulge themselves because they are too mean to buy it. There is a huge gulf between them and
the ordinary people. They seized on Covid to exercise their power and to control. It shut down Trump, the Yellow vest protests and the Hong Kong riots.

All to protect a few ancient boring useless mean 90 years olds who would be dead long ago if it was not for modern medicine. They have to die from something
so they should clock out and let the young crowd have access to their houses and land. Look at all the contrary auld kunts on Politics.ie and Pish and Mowl, Ollie and DS. What the fock loss would they be? I am completely sober to night in case I am accused of being drunk. Its the greatest load of horsemanure ever.

Irish civil service staff are mostly drunks - how else can you explain their uselessness?

Mean Val?
Says a man that’s been wearing the same stained jumper for months now.
Cop yourself on, you disgusting fool.

Val wouldn't spend Christmas if he could avoid it - he was moaning and groaning over on GPO that by middy on the 26th he'd had enough.

Had enough what? Friends calling by for a quick hello and a sup of watered-down whiskey?

Take manky jumpers out of you dope head's vocabulary and you're speechless.

You're a stink-ball, Val: get used to it. A rancid, smelly stinker.

I a way, the longer these lock downs go on the better the chance a revolt.

h - Paddy's far too lazy to revolt, not unless there's a few pints and a brown envelope in the mix.

So an infected bread delivery man loads the shelves of the supermarket with Brennan s bread, 20 customers handle that package. The virus lasts 3 days on the packaging. Tell us how the virus does not transmit to the customers. Each customer has 2 relatives at home and they handle the loaf. 1 delivery man X 20 X 3 =63. In one morning

Say an infected and rather dopey farmer from Kingscourt rides two cows and wanks off one bull - how many chickens crossed the road to get away from Val?

Let's assume Val has swine herpes: he kisses all the girl's at the local ceili and then stumbles home only to fall into a ditch: how much muck is displaced by Val's big fat stomach, his big mad twitchy head, and two jumpers on at the same time?

 

[Thus]

So an infected bread delivery man loads the shelves of the supermarket with Brennan s bread, 20 customers handle that package. The virus lasts 3 days on the packaging. Tell us how the virus does not transmit to the customers. Each customer has 2 relatives at home and they handle the loaf. 1 delivery man X 20 X 3 =63. In one morning

Just because he’s handed every packet does not mean that he has transmitted the virus onto the packet. Unless he’s sneezed on every packet it’s unlikely that something would be transmitted.

I can understand you’re frustrated about not being able to go on the lash, but the science has proven that the virus is more easily spread in places where people are eating and drinking, yapping and sharing the air around them.
Hence why the pubs and restaurants are first on the list.

Also Paddy is a very unsophisticated eater, lots of Paddies I know would prefer to use a spoon to horse the food into them.

I’ve been down the country and have seen you farm boys, lash the food into you. Head down over the plate, the right hand going 90 horsing the spuds and gravy into your mouths. Only coming up for oxygen to say that the turnip is lovely, while speaking with your mouth full and spitting bits of half chewed food all over the shop.

Its precisely for that reason why covid has spread rampantly in Paddyland with 3300 cases yesterday alone...while in the whole of France there was 3400.

 

[valamhic]

Just because he’s handed every packet does not mean that he has transmitted the virus onto the packet. Unless he’s sneezed on every packet it’s unlikely that something would be transmitted.

I can understand you’re frustrated about not being able to go on the lash, but the science has proven that the virus is more easily spread in places where people are eating and drinking, yapping and sharing the air around them.
Hence why the pubs and restaurants are first on the list.

Also Paddy is a very unsophisticated eater, lots of Paddies I know would prefer to use a spoon to horse the food into them.

I’ve been down the country and have seen you farm boys, lash the food into you. Head down over the plate, the right hand going 90 horsing the spuds and gravy into your mouths. Only coming up for oxygen to say that the turnip is lovely, while speaking with your mouth full and spitting bits of half chewed food all over the shop.

Its precisely for that reason why covid has spread rampantly in Paddyland with 3300 cases yesterday alone...while in the whole of France there was 3400.

The science you speak if is selected by the Irish government. You are wrong. The virus is capable of living on a suitable surface for 3 days. Grocery packaging is ideal.

If they wanted to go this route, a person shopping would have to call out what he wants, have it selected by an assistant and brought to the counter. Then it would have to be dropped in a box and the payment being by card. Cash payments would have to be handed in to a separate box, not touched by the assistant and later sterilized. The change would have to be sterilized before handing back.

This is impossible without intense training for everyone. There fore the virus is spreading out of control.

 

[Coal Gas and peat]

I was there n McDonald's once since last March and they are doing the cash payments box thing.......I don't believe in this virus but I agree with Val that if it was that dangerous you really should be in a situation of closed supermarkets and order picking being delivered to car boots and houses